bill clinton tried the approach that i'm talking about. we created 23 million new jobs went from deficit to surplus, and businesses did very well. so in some ways we have data on which approach is more likely to create jobs and opportunity for americans, and i believe the economy works best when middle class families are getting tax breaks so they have money in their pockets, and those of us who have done extraordinarily well because of this magnificent country that we live in, that we can do more -- >> romney: jim the president started this segment. so i get the last word. >> you get the first word of the next segment. >> romney: i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan. that's .1. so you may keep referring to it as a $5 trillion tax cut. but that's not my plan. number 2, let's look at history. my plan is not like anything that has been tried before. my plan is to bring down rates and also bring down deductions exemptions and credits at the same time so the revenue stays in. my priority is putting people back to work